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Post by kendall on Jul 17, 2018 1:44:55 GMT
kendall we already discuss that on the RoadMap thread, but here we go... We did promise a Simple Shooter AI for the Shooter Template users since the Melee Combat Template already has one. So basically Shooter Template users will have a chance to grab the AI Template for Free for a limited time (plenty of time). The thing is, we start developing the new AI and the package got bigger and bigger, and the more we see it the more it required to be a standalone asset, it was no longer a 'cool bonus' for the template, but rather a full complete AI solution that can work with an FPS or VR project and that's what we're selling. We invested a lot of time working on this templates and today it is our full-time job but the only way to keep bringing so many updates with improvements and new content for you guys, is by having enough to pay our bills... otherwise we would need to find day jobs and the updates would be less and less. Feel free to try others assets and see what fits better your project (and your pocket) but I think that the price practice in the AssetStore for some assets is insanely cheap if you stop and analyze the content you're getting (just my thought also as a customer) I don't recall having this conversation with you. And of course i just can use another asset in the store. But is not me you have to convince i already bought all the stuff you sell becouse i want support your work so don't pull that on me please. My point is the shooter template need at least a basic shooter enemy A.I. becouse feels incomplete If you compare it with other templates. And Legion i take your word. You clearly have more experience than me. but most of people who looks for templates is becouse are looking for the cheapest and fastest way posible to make a game In any market if i offer less and charge more than my competition the people will be preffer my competition. And if i start to charge money for things other people gives for free. My costumers will start to think bad of me. Still i will continue support any addon you people make becouse personaly i think you made a outstanding work. I hope everything goes well and your I.A. sells plenty just consider my humble feedback thank you
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Post by sjl on Jul 17, 2018 7:12:36 GMT
I have followed the invector templates since I came across them... I have purchesed asharps templates/templates from the tpc and climb and AI great coding and assets in themselves but was very difficult to implement multiple systems and customize... Thus led me to hunt for a bit easier solution and that's when I found invector... So for the price though not completely dirt cheap but not to overly expensive I found a great community and great devs that actually care about their product and support. Invector has been by far the most flexible and customizable tpc with outstanding support addons and community addons... So long story short from my personal experience and non professional opinion you get what you paid for and a big bit more.. The only thing missing from all the templates is multiplayer but the community can get that done while letting invector focus more on what they do making great assets that's fairly priced for all budgets... Theirs and ours.. And for them to make an AI free for a short time is cool and then charge but the actual awesome part is that they KEPT THEIR WORD to their followers and customers instead of abandoning them like so many other devs out there tend to do. So even if it was not free at all I would still buy it because of the quality of their work... So keep up the awesome job guys
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Post by kukuhbasuki on Jul 17, 2018 7:33:32 GMT
Great progress Invector!
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Post by ideveloper on Jul 17, 2018 9:27:29 GMT
People follow you and buy your product because your asset quality. No doubt in start you saying this AI package integrate with shooter template and now you saying this AI separate package. Now if your plan is separate AI package then I must buy this and I hope other people also buy this new AI package. Your asset is the one of the best asset on asset store so there no matter people not buying new AI template. Best of luck and best wishes for you.
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Post by uberwiggett on Jul 17, 2018 9:50:39 GMT
kendall when they said "we already had that convo" they meant the generalised we and not you directly.
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Post by Aaron2348 on Jul 17, 2018 13:44:08 GMT
kendall we already discuss that on the RoadMap thread, but here we go... We did promise a Simple Shooter AI for the Shooter Template users since the Melee Combat Template already has one. So basically Shooter Template users will have a chance to grab the AI Template for Free for a limited time (plenty of time). The thing is, we start developing the new AI and the package got bigger and bigger, and the more we see it the more it required to be a standalone asset, it was no longer a 'cool bonus' for the template, but rather a full complete AI solution that can work with an FPS or VR project and that's what we're selling. We invested a lot of time working on this templates and today it is our full-time job but the only way to keep bringing so many updates with improvements and new content for you guys, is by having enough to pay our bills... otherwise we would need to find day jobs and the updates would be less and less. Feel free to try others assets and see what fits better your project (and your pocket) but I think that the price practice in the AssetStore for some assets is insanely cheap if you stop and analyze the content you're getting (just my thought also as a customer) Woah!! Yeah this is big!!! at first I did not really back the decision, sorry for that Invector I'm behind you now, you guys for sure need money for this period.
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Post by dottdogg on Jul 17, 2018 14:25:56 GMT
Keep up the good work, Invector. Looking forward to the AI template!
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Post by Invector on Jul 17, 2018 16:58:24 GMT
Thanks for all the support guys, you're all amazing devs and we couldn't be happier with our little community here. You can expect the AI Template hitting the vStore VERY SOON - I'm recording and editing some video tutorials right now and we also have plans to create a new series of tutorials for the Third Person Templates showing every feature with more details as well.
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Post by Invector on Jul 17, 2018 17:19:35 GMT
kendall we already discuss that on the RoadMap thread, but here we go... We did promise a Simple Shooter AI for the Shooter Template users since the Melee Combat Template already has one. So basically Shooter Template users will have a chance to grab the AI Template for Free for a limited time (plenty of time). The thing is, we start developing the new AI and the package got bigger and bigger, and the more we see it the more it required to be a standalone asset, it was no longer a 'cool bonus' for the template, but rather a full complete AI solution that can work with an FPS or VR project and that's what we're selling. We invested a lot of time working on this templates and today it is our full-time job but the only way to keep bringing so many updates with improvements and new content for you guys, is by having enough to pay our bills... otherwise we would need to find day jobs and the updates would be less and less. Feel free to try others assets and see what fits better your project (and your pocket) but I think that the price practice in the AssetStore for some assets is insanely cheap if you stop and analyze the content you're getting (just my thought also as a customer) I don't recall having this conversation with you. And of course i just can use another asset in the store. But is not me you have to convince i already bought all the stuff you sell becouse i want support your work so don't pull that on me please. My point is the shooter template need at least a basic shooter enemy A.I. becouse feels incomplete If you compare it with other templates. And Legion i take your word. You clearly have more experience than me. but most of people who looks for templates is becouse are looking for the cheapest and fastest way posible to make a game In any market if i offer less and charge more than my competition the people will be preffer my competition. And if i start to charge money for things other people gives for free. My costumers will start to think bad of me. Still i will continue support any addon you people make becouse personaly i think you made a outstanding work. I hope everything goes well and your I.A. sells plenty just consider my humble feedback thank you When I said 'we already have this conversation', I mean we as the community (sorry for not being clear enough) You say that the Shooter Template needs a AI, but that's the thing, it really doesn't... It's a Third Person Controller Template and not a Full Game Kit, which means that the focus is the Third Person Controller, it will not have a save/load solution, it will not have a scoring system, or skill tree, or crafting system, those are all specific mechanics that will make your game to actually be your game and must be developed by the dev. Our main goal was always to provide a Quality Character Controller so you can start your game development, we will never develop anything that can be an asset flipper or an easy GameKit to quickly publish a game by just changing the skin. I like to think that developers come to our template due to the Quality that we ship our assets and not the number of features, for example, there are publishers that sell packages with 300 3D models for like $5.99 but none of those 300 models have the quality of 1 3D models from Manufactura 4K, so that's something to think about.
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Post by kendall on Jul 17, 2018 20:03:57 GMT
I don't recall having this conversation with you. And of course i just can use another asset in the store. But is not me you have to convince i already bought all the stuff you sell becouse i want support your work so don't pull that on me please. My point is the shooter template need at least a basic shooter enemy A.I. becouse feels incomplete If you compare it with other templates. And Legion i take your word. You clearly have more experience than me. but most of people who looks for templates is becouse are looking for the cheapest and fastest way posible to make a game In any market if i offer less and charge more than my competition the people will be preffer my competition. And if i start to charge money for things other people gives for free. My costumers will start to think bad of me. Still i will continue support any addon you people make becouse personaly i think you made a outstanding work. I hope everything goes well and your I.A. sells plenty just consider my humble feedback thank you When I said 'we already have this conversation', I mean we as the community (sorry for not being clear enough) You say that the Shooter Template needs a AI, but that's the thing, it really doesn't... It's a Third Person Controller Template and not a Full Game Kit, which means that the focus is the Third Person Controller, it will not have a save/load solution, it will not have a scoring system, or skill tree, or crafting system, those are all specific mechanics that will make your game to actually be your game and must be developed by the dev. Our main goal was always to provide a Quality Character Controller so you can start your game development, we will never develop anything that can be an asset flipper or an easy GameKit to quickly publish a game by just changing the skin. I like to think that developers come to our template due to the Quality that we ship our assets and not the number of features, for example, there are publishers that sell packages with 300 3D models for like $5.99 but none of those 300 models have the quality of 1 3D models from Manufactura 4K, so that's something to think about. Yes. i get your point and you are rigth specialy in the part you don't want to make the tool exploitable by asset flippers and i can say by experience the tps delivers in his premise and more and has great customer support. Besides it hurts me when i see the TPS controller in a episodes of jimquisition
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Post by sectuz on Jul 17, 2018 22:08:21 GMT
When AI will come to vStore, can I somehow claim it, so I dont have to wait for unity store ? I bought shooter template there
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 23:45:52 GMT
When AI will come to vStore, can I somehow claim it, so I dont have to wait for unity store ? I bought shooter template there lol thats the same with me XD Keep doing it Invector! Good Job!! :D AI looked amazing when I saw it! So much so its amazing!
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Post by kukuhbasuki on Jul 18, 2018 12:44:12 GMT
Dear Invector. Can I have some "coward enemies" with this AI system? They need to fleeing & hiding to "safe places" near them.
I hope you can consider this idea ;)
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Post by uberwiggett on Jul 18, 2018 13:15:09 GMT
"You can expect the AI Template hitting the vStore VERY SOON -"
*heavy breathing*
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 14:04:55 GMT
"You can expect the AI Template hitting the vStore VERY SOON -"
*heavy breathing* Lol *starts pulling cash out of pocket*
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