Weapon IK Glitch

[tsuyoiraion]

Weapon IK glitches out anytime a weapon is equipped, doesn't matter what state i'm in (idle, moving, aiming, etc.) since i use IK active for each state. It also happens with every weapon and not just a single weapon.

I'm not sure exactly what is causing this as it wasn't happening before but just started happening all of a sudden, could be a setting i changed but again, not sure where.

Any thoughts on this would be really helpful as it basically breaks gameplay entirely 

Here's a video of the issue:

[Invector]

Are you using Final IK by any chance?

[tsuyoiraion]

Dec 3, 2018 13:52:24 GMT Invector said:

Are you using Final IK by any chance?

I'm not, the only thing i'm using is the scripts/setup provided in Invector package (shooter) and my own custom scripts (which aren't handling IK in any way)

[Invector]

Hmmmmmm actually... did you notice that this only happens when your character blinks?

[tsuyoiraion]

Dec 3, 2018 17:53:34 GMT Invector said:

Hmmmmmm actually... did you notice that this only happens when your character blinks?

Oh boy :p you are right!

Actually i lied, I am using LipSync Pro to handle the blinking and talking.

Why would this affect the IK? It's only handling the eyes and utilizing the Morph3D blendshapes to do so.

[Invector]

No idea! We used to have a conflict with Final IK but Partel fixed on the latest updates

Check their forums or send an email to support to see if there is an option in the inspector to check or something

[tsuyoiraion]

Dec 3, 2018 19:25:27 GMT Invector said:

No idea! We used to have a conflict with Final IK but Partel fixed on the latest updates

Check their forums or send an email to support to see if there is an option in the inspector to check or something

So i've traced the issue back to Morph3D as if I turn off the blinking system (which is part of lipsync and not morph3d) and then manually make one of the eyes blink with morph 3d's blendshape, the glitch occurs.

[tsuyoiraion]

Dec 3, 2018 19:25:27 GMT Invector said:

No idea! We used to have a conflict with Final IK but Partel fixed on the latest updates

Check their forums or send an email to support to see if there is an option in the inspector to check or something

So since this is a Morph3D conflicting issue with your shooter pack and Morph3D, would you be looking into this or should I talk to Morph3D creators?

[Invector]

That's pretty strange, one thing shouldn't be tied to the other... try asking to their support if the eye blendshape has anything to do with IK or the arms although as I mentioned, it doesn't make much sense

[tsuyoiraion]

Dec 4, 2018 17:31:54 GMT Invector said:

That's pretty strange, one thing shouldn't be tied to the other... try asking to their support if the eye blendshape has anything to do with IK or the arms although as I mentioned, it doesn't make much sense

Well i've contacted the Morph3D team but they have been unresponsive, i've tried playing with the Morph3D settings/setup, etc. for quiet a while with no success.


So gotta find someone to look into this :P as it is definitely an issue.

[ceebeee]

I had this problem with Morph3D and FinalIK. As I recall I had to turn off physics update on the Animator Component. (or turn it on, I forget which way It had to go)

[tsuyoiraion]

Dec 9, 2018 0:31:53 GMT ceebeee said:

I had this problem with Morph3D and FinalIK. As I recall I had to turn off physics update on the Animator Component. (or turn it on, I forget which way It had to go)

Thanks for the suggestion!

Well the shooter template auto sets the Animator to physics update but even if i switch the settings in realtime the glitch still occurs when blinking v_v

[ceebeee]

Dec 9, 2018 1:14:39 GMT tsuyoiraion said:

Dec 9, 2018 0:31:53 GMT ceebeee said:

I had this problem with Morph3D and FinalIK. As I recall I had to turn off physics update on the Animator Component. (or turn it on, I forget which way It had to go)

Thanks for the suggestion!

Well the shooter template auto sets the Animator to physics update but even if i switch the settings in realtime the glitch still occurs when blinking v_v

I hunted down the old project I had to verify, and yeah at least in the case of MCS and FinalIK, turning the Update Mode to "Normal" instead of "Physics" solved it. But of course you're using Invector, not FinalIK, so it may be a completely different problem.


EDIT:  Since I had the project open, I looked to see if there was some other way to get the same result, and I did find one.  Instead of turning off Animate Physics, I rewrote the blink script to use Unity's SetBlendShapeWeight() function instead of Morph3d's M3DCharacterManager.SetBlendshapeValue() function, and the issue went away also. So it looks like it's their software that is the problem. 

[tsuyoiraion]

Dec 9, 2018 19:00:11 GMT ceebeee said:

Dec 9, 2018 1:14:39 GMT tsuyoiraion said:

Thanks for the suggestion!

Well the shooter template auto sets the Animator to physics update but even if i switch the settings in realtime the glitch still occurs when blinking v_v

I hunted down the old project I had to verify, and yeah at least in the case of MCS and FinalIK, turning the Update Mode to "Normal" instead of "Physics" solved it. But of course you're using Invector, not FinalIK, so it may be a completely different problem.


EDIT:  Since I had the project open, I looked to see if there was some other way to get the same result, and I did find one.  Instead of turning off Animate Physics, I rewrote the blink script to use Unity's SetBlendShapeWeight() function instead of Morph3d's M3DCharacterManager.SetBlendshapeValue() function, and the issue went away also. So it looks like it's their software that is the problem. 

So you think it's morph3D's blendshape system that is the issue? As in the Morph3D component on the character that handles the blendshapes (since that's what's generally handles the blendshapes)

[ceebeee]

yes, that's what my experiment suggests. (and is one of the reasons I hate black box software you can't modify)