Bug of enemies in Melee Combat/ vSimpleMeleeAI_Controller?

[nekodeshu]

Hi!

I am in trouble now.　Help!

Maybe it is a problem with Invector (or maybe there is a setting that I am not aware of).





<Bug?>
The enemies do not face the protagonist, but start attacking with their backs turned.



<bug production method>



1.Play the Melee Combat demo. Photo 1



2.The player attacks the enemy and knocks them down. Photo 2

3.The player moves to the back of the enemy while they are down. (The bug may occur even if the player does not move)



4.The enemy stands up again.



5.The enemies do not face the protagonist, but start attacking and guarding with their backs turned. Photo 3

The enemy recognizes the protagonist, but the direction of attack is wrong.



<version>

Invector Third Person Controller version 2.6.3



<Comment>

I use FSM AI for the bigboss. But this has a lot of settings.

I want to use vSimpleMeleeAI_Controller for a large number of cheap enemies.



I would like to know how to deal with it.

[axbaby123]

Just use a blue team or red team mellee AI, they are well setup already. Simple may be too simple. Big Boss used to be a lot better and setup better in the older versions of FSM.

[nekodeshu]

Thanks for your advice!

I also use FSM AI. I looked at the sample, but I was unable to increase the reaction speed of the AI ​​(Photo A).

I noticed that vSimpleMeleeAI_Controller has some great features.


1.Reaction rate
In vSimpleMeleeAI, even if the protagonist runs away, the enemy will immediately chase after him. It's a quick response.
FSM AI freezes enemies for a second or two when the protagonist runs away.
This is a big challenge for FSM AI.

2. Rigidbody 
vSimpleMeleeAI fixes the positions X and Z of RigidbodyConstraints.
Of course, in FSM AI, if you increase the value of Mass, it will behave similarly.
However, when there are many enemies, I feel that vSimpleMeleeAI works beautifully.


3. vSimpleMeleeAI can easily turn off Strade Sideways and Strade Backward.
(Of course, similar things can be done with FSM AI)

Among the above, 1 is a major issue.
I want FSM AI to have the same reaction speed as vSimpleMeleeAI_Controller.
like that
Do you have samples of FSM BEHAVIOUR?
Having that would be very helpful.

[nekodeshu]

Regarding the problem I reported, the problem occurs even if FSM is not installed.
Even now, there are still major issues with the enemy's AI.
If a beginner uses invector, the bugs will remain.
Are asset buyers capable of fixing defects themselves?

I think that bugs should be fixed because if you fix them yourself, it will be a hassle when they are rewritten in a version update.

[Invector]

Oct 9, 2023 12:55:32 GMT nekodeshu said:

Thanks for your advice!

I also use FSM AI. I looked at the sample, but I was unable to increase the reaction speed of the AI ​​(Photo A).

I noticed that vSimpleMeleeAI_Controller has some great features.


1.Reaction rate
In vSimpleMeleeAI, even if the protagonist runs away, the enemy will immediately chase after him. It's a quick response.
FSM AI freezes enemies for a second or two when the protagonist runs away.
This is a big challenge for FSM AI.

2. Rigidbody 
vSimpleMeleeAI fixes the positions X and Z of RigidbodyConstraints.
Of course, in FSM AI, if you increase the value of Mass, it will behave similarly.
However, when there are many enemies, I feel that vSimpleMeleeAI works beautifully.


3. vSimpleMeleeAI can easily turn off Strade Sideways and Strade Backward.
(Of course, similar things can be done with FSM AI)

Among the above, 1 is a major issue.
I want FSM AI to have the same reaction speed as vSimpleMeleeAI_Controller.
like that
Do you have samples of FSM BEHAVIOUR?
Having that would be very helpful.

The SimpleMeleeAI as the name suggest is a very simple and not exapandable or customizable as the FSM AI, we created this AI several years ago back when we released the MeleeCombat Template and it was a bonus to that package. 

The FSM is a complete AI solution which allows you to fully customize behaviors, so we recommend using that instead of the simple ai. 

There are several examples of different FSM AI Controllers and Behaviors, just navigate in the FSM AI folder > Scenes.
If you want to improve the reaction speed, take a look at CanSee target update quality, find target quality, distance values, attack time, attack distance and of course inside the FSM behavior you need to check the conditions to enter/exit the states to patrol, chase and go to combat mode.